Public Funds Run Dry at Thagoona.

Engineering Failure or A Failed PR exercise ?

From experience, sometimes hard experience, you can’t test a water mitigation project until it goes under pressure in severe conditions.

In May and November this year we’re the testing times for The Great Thagoona Wall and as expected it failed in every aspect.

After over 500 mm of rain in two events it never managed to shift or run more than a conservative foot of water in the trench ,not enough to bend the grass.

This amazing exercise is something out of a Monty Python script where a project starts at the lowest point of the land, moves towards the source O’Sheas Gully of previous flooding , but runs out of funds and stops short of Thagoona Haigslea Road connecting to nothing and at a cost of 22 million dollars of public money granted and managed fully by the former council.

Yes great public PR was had by the elected officials but absolutely nothing achieved in preventing water going through the homes on the Thagoona Haigslea residents except a small drain clean out.

Bridges were built, thousands of meters of soil brought in to make the wall while the existing spoil was used to make some sort of a Helecopter pad to walk on in Caledonian Park.

Just imagine with that 22million would if some mitigation was done in the local spills, now breeding grounds for scotch grey 747 mosquitoes.

How about starting at the source and moving downstream and taking away the flow serviced by a ordinary spill as on the other side of the road.?

No way, my prediction is the logic is wait for the developer’s to start and make it their responsibility and hope the 50 year event does not happen until then.

Either way is public money used to what it has been granted to the people who need it in normal times , especially in times of changing and more severe weather conditions?.

I say NO. And to be brutally honest , my association with engineers has never been cordial as such but I’m sure no engineer would put his name to this “fuck up” willingly and some political influence had to be factored in.

Either way I have written to the current Mayor and spoke to our Two Councillors along with some Hi Vis clipboards on site who tried to fabricate the inexplainable.

The end game is quite simple, some one should be held accountable for the jobs failure, engineeringly or politically, either way the misuse of public moneys is reprehensible.

Photos Below reveal the stark truth of the infrastructure failure.

Existing Flows on Girral Road
Upstream View Spill Drain

Upstream The 22million Dollar Great Wall same time as Above
Downstream of the Wall

America Fails Female Equality Test. L.F.G.

While biding time pre the Matilda v USA Women match we decided to watch a documentary called L.F.G. On the claim for equal pay for American World Champions.

Let’s be totally upfront here, I’m not a America fan, probably instilled by my forefathers view on their involvement in both world wars and their performances since, BUT after seeing this film my opinion of their culture has sunk to a all time low.

The Matilda’s had to fight hard to achieve parity in and as a former trade unionist I wholly appreciate any battle for equality and in sure the majority of Australian people agree, however I never thought women could be regarded as inferior in not only skills but in their physical and mental makeup and that argument used in American court of law.

For that to happen and tolerated their has to be some flaw in not the female anatomy but the entire system of which these people live by and accepted as “normal and acceptable”.

No doubt it’s a total misogynistic system which only exists is for monetary gain which is the Great American Dream of individual capitalism till you reach a level of corporate capitalism and everything else, ethics and compassion, is collateral damage.

This example of the simple rights of a group of women who have outperformed their male counterparts at every single level of the sport yet get about a third reimbursement if their lucky, while the men are flat out finding their way out of the dressing sheds come the big gig ,World Cup time.

It sickens me and my wife that the men all men who are involved in sport can think this is “normal” in America and not have the guts to stand up.

What a pathetic race! “Big toys and little balls,thats the yanks”, was the saying and nothing has changed since 40’s apparently.

I understand the Law system is peculiar to America, yep I understand that. Where child marriage is still tolerated and practiced and accepted as normal says a lot for that system where you can justify anything as long as you have money to buy the outcome you desire without any boundaries or decency or human rights.

Where a political and human rights system has not evolved since settlement so as not to upset the wealthy and corporate moguls and none on either side of the isle having the guts to change even though their society is burning down around them.

So what chance has these strong women got for what is regarded as normal in any civilised society? My guess little without international pressure.

International pressure that would see their federations sanctioned by FIFA nations, cutting their subsidies, releasing their female players from international restraints on who they represent and USA citizenship no longer a currency in a players right to earn a living and right of recall.

We cannot as a football family allow inequality and when it’s exposed it must be acted on. We cannot allow the current thousands of young girls who are as passionate as us be treated as inferior in that environment and we all can play a part by boycotting the companies that support the managements that fail in their duty and support equality in the Women’s Game all over the world, not only America.

The game is bigger that the men with the small balls,and the fathers who accept their youngster is inferior in any way and do absolutely nothing.

LFG means (Let’s Fucken GO!)

The Pox of The Straw Man

Waking this morning to hear the news of people on the streets allegedly protesting against government trying to keep them and fellow citizens alive by lockdown would be understandable in America where the IQ level is not not a premium and demonstrated daily, but it seems that dumb down intellect has spread to Australia.

The habits of a failed nation where ethics, laws, elected officials, culture, religion is governed by the capitalist dollar where you crawl over your anybody or anything to gain money and be regarded as “A Businessman” and that justifies the code of the End always justifies the Means.

That type of culture is infiltrating Australians, and I fully agree with ones right to protest, I am not stupid enough to realise this gullible group is being infiltrated by the Right wing crackpots with sinister agendas.

And Yes I’ve been on the streets, marched and protested in my youth but were wise enough to know when the Nazis or Facists tried to infiltrate our ranks. Todays mature adults in “age”are totally street dumb, politically naive, easily led after all to them if you can’t get a haircut or a latte your deprived of freedom. Self centred, all about me, culture of image is exposed with little thought of the broader picture of how our nation has grown. Unlike America we have cultures of our fellow man, our health system is a classic example, which again the Americans do not have the intellect to consume, or our once welcoming attitudes of migrants, tainted by the present government granted, but that culture still is alive in our majority.

I witnessed first hand kids with polio, in my class and we cared. We got vaccinated, I saw kids and mothers grief with results of German measles and my mother had dypyheria so yes don’t crap me with your “Freedom Shit” lingo because if we did not get vaccinated those protesters would never have evolved. Fact.

It was the “responsible thing to do” yes responsible, a feeling that is normal in our culture now we have a sector that feel does not apply to them. Their special, maybe elite even who knows so just imagine having one in the trenches and could you rely on their support?

You’d be foolish or have grave doubts at least.

We have a Prime Minister who is gutless, a liar, a imposter on our democratic history who sees political advantage in courting the nut jobs, and I’m sure will be supported by the politically naive, the dumb down lot who just take passing interest , a condition the savvy politicians love as they only have to perform around elections. Der, then we have the other so called “Independent” people like Palmer and my local village idiot, the “political harlot” Hanson who will say anything do anything for self survival, who could be President in America with her ethical base, no problems there.

Oh yes how could I forget about the Conspiracy theorists who thrive on the illiterate, the uneducated the one who will seize on anything or anybody, looking fr the big Boogy man if you support us well keep you safe, here buy this hat, and don’t leave your state or you’ll fall off the edge of the earth.

Once a script for Monty Python now are actually living the role of the ridiculous with their silly hats, Spanish Inquisitions, or taking on movie star roles bringing the days of the rebellions, or cow boy characters waving flags and in costumes with scripted lines out of some spaghetti movie set.

How easy is it to lead a people to do senseless things? No problem , wave a flag in their face, tell them god is on their side, then invent a straw boogie man, give them guns or weapons of scripted word power and let the go out and populated it..

You now have a classic Propaganda Machine like cattle to the crush..

I’m not stupid enough not to know all sides of politics don’t use this strategy, but depending on your democracy type their has to be separation of powers to alleviate dictatorships and active intellectual Oppositions who’s ability to kick government hard without use of violence along with the use of the Forth Estate keeps civil society civil.

We are supposed to have a obligation to each other in Civil Society and the ones who see that are so special they divorce themselves from that obligation should be held out to identification, it’s their choice and it’s our choice to choose if they are fit enough to join our social fabric.

Some Times when Women’s Football Evolving

Queensland Era 1965-1979

Time Sometime Forgets

With the Women’s Game of Football in Queensland reaching its Centenary I/We my wife Margaret Nee Crook and myself have reflected our little bit of experience while the game was developing /evolving from about 1964 through to 1979.

From the beginning I started my interest at under 11 at that time was the youngest team in the Annerley club in 1960, playing in grey tee shirts and card board numbers safety pinned on our backs. Later my Dad and his mate Tom Blackall started a under 9 competition where my brother Gary played.

Gary was a natural, I struggled but really never excelled until I found my notch in goal after giving my coaches Alf and Stan Shields years of lament yet a couple of sessions with out first team keeper Fred Moss I got the gist.

I progressed till I was stymied by a club politics of the elite or clicks of which me or my parents were not invited.

Fair enough I thought so I was approached by Niel Wall a Brisbane Junior Referee official and me and a few mates became the first and youngest referees appointed to junior games across Brisbane.

The junior game was growing and the club had decided to start a Under 7 side and I was asked to coach, and that I continued til they were Under 15, winning just about everything in our way.

This Under 7 side started my relationship as I approached this young girl I had been watching playing in the women’s team to be my manager, about 1964-65 I recall., and she is still my manager today in 2021.

Margaret was a real pioneer of the ladies football as my fellow players had girlfriends that played firstly as just fun but soon developed into a serious exercise by those who really wanted to play and play well.

They sorted out the kick and giggle and set to playing with women who in todays time not as skilful but certainly ruthless at times, particularly when their boyfriends were egging them on, whose skills were limited to say the least.

Coaches were scarce and the women’s game was not accepted as “REAL” in those times by officials at all levels.

Margarets coach Bob Geogahan was a ex rugby league player who’s daughter Helen wanted to play and got the job because he was there.

He went on to be an outstanding representative of the Women’s Game in Queensland.

Margarets weekend were full time with me coaching the kids then me playing and Sundays her playing. Football was our winter life and summer was Tennis/ Squash/ Ten Pin Bowles with the Ladies team, I’d play cricket and she’d was club scorer.

Margarets game slowly developed with the game and as it expanded she and her teammates were selected in Brisbane rep squads, not before doing promotions on Don Secombs “Ive Got A Secret |” TV show on Channel 9 where they were trying to raise funds to go to Singapore to play a women’s team there. Far in advance of any mens football club ambitions or vision and even though it the trip never er eventuated they went to Sydney to play a representative shire side.

Brisbane sides we the majority until along came Kieth Barclay from that town they call Ipswich and then shook the cages of the evolving hierarchy and with the support of Elaine Watson evolved from the Annerley parents like Bob and was The Warhorse of Women’s Football in Queensland and Australia later on.

History records the fierce rivalry of Brisbane and Ipswich in not just sport by oxygen in reality and Football men and women’s was inflammable at any time since the 1890’s but Brisbane had its own power games being played out by mainly people struggling for self importance using their clubs as wedges and those power games spilled over to the players and animosity often affected players relationships with each other.

That culture is toxic and held back the game both men and women and probably still exists in places and was my first hurdle when I was appointed as State Coach in 1976 for the 1977 Perth Tour.

Firstly it would be totally unfair not to recognise the former Brisbane and Queensland Representatives in the era before I became involved officially with Women’s Football. Those players including my wife funded their own kit, trips, accomodation and did it for love of the sport, not ego, not fame just a passion for their selected code and Elaine and Bob were the powerhouses for that many a fundraiser, horn and prawn, bingo night, raffle circulated our clubs home grounds to support our representatives.

History in that era has been captured but the commitment of some players endangered their jobs and family relationships for some when a women’s status was looked on as being subservient to males. Another issue I was alerted to when coaching women. A Issue I was probably guilty of without really thinking it as being abnormal in earlier times.

Sadly in my opinion this time in the hazier years before blooming times in the 80’s but should not be forgotten.

My involvement started as stated 1976 when i was approached by Bob and Elaine to take over from Bob coaching the State Squad.

At that time I had left Annerley, a short stint at Salsbury, and was appointed as Colts coach for Saint George Souths, a club that was solely owned privately owned.

My departure from Annerley was less that accidental after over 20 years but I had to get out of the bubble of nepotism that existed and test my own ability and after a very successful stints as reserve grade, junior coaching was too local to get the top gig, so when I left and started working with the Greek club, the 1st division premiers for years previous as their second team and talent coach, made my first game against Annerley very interesting but not surprising reactions from supporters and what I thought friends. Family relationships were strained to say the least but they were paying, and my family come first, especially when I left my trade and started with Telecom as a baggy arsed Lineman at the bottom of the ladder.

After putting my case to the AGM at the Women’s Association I was appointed as State Coach and entered the fray of Women’s Football this time though on the other side of the desk. YEP this made my relationship with my wife a little strange to say the least as she was still a state player.

That situation and my decision not to select her in the state squad is still a subject of contention as we speak but my reasoning was after some time learning the existing culture and what had to change would have put her exposed as a lightning rod of comparison if any disciplinary issues arose.

I could not be seen as bias and even though I left Annerley the pundits still saw me as slanted. In fact I was probably guilty of scrutinising Annerley above the normal not to generate criticism.

So away we went and what a ride, all of us on a learning curve, and all eager to raise the Queensland flag in victory, but we come up short just short beaten by a referee who played 7 minutes overtime, but I was so proud of that squad as they all left their club baggage for the major part the campaign but as human nature some reverted after the event and that was a part of my learning curve of second agendas and politics.

It cannot go unmentioned after the comp and before presentations I was visited by a official and as to coach the Australian team as well as asking me who would I pick out of my squad to be maned in a team that was mainly just token as they were not going anywhere or playing anybody.

I informed him that I was not what they regarded as a qualified coach as I never had their piece of paper but I was assured they would look after that if I took the job and handed me a contract with Rothmans.

I declined as I had just started with Telecom in February and uprooting my family and moving to the Sports Academy down south was too much to consume as they wanted a decision before e announcement of the Australian Squad even without consultation with Margaret.

I feel that was part of the plan, as the bloke who handed me the contract went on to coach the national squad. I still stand by my decision and went on to a great career with Telstra.

In regards to that Piece of Paper Coaching certificate went back to when a group of Poms in Brisbane decided they would set up their own coaching federation and gave each other qualifications than set out to make existing coaches mainly non pommy unqualified.

Bitter no, but when a good mate of mine who happened to be a pom was invited to attend a coaching course which I was observing at the time came away with qualifications after about a 1 hour while others had several nights of course I told a quite prominent coach at the time to shove it up his Arse in Australian Terms and the following year I was appointed State Coach and the first State Director Of Coaching caused a uproar amongst the Pommy Coaching Self Appointed Royalty and probably proved detrimental to the code while my appointment was current.

I am for ever grateful and respectful of the quality of character Elaine Watson had as she and her board stood by me in those turbulent times.

Off the record HA HA HA NOW i worked the shipyard and worked a.long with heaps of migrants who loved football lived at Yungabar hostel and I got heaps of books ,literature from all over Europe in the coaching field and introduced the 4/3/3 system into my under 8 side well before the seniors caught on. Don Revie Leeds United brought it to England and I had paper explaining the system hot off the Yungabar network.

The best bit was I had all the people from Europe with their football experiences around a fire drinking tea and arguing football ,so good for a 15-18 year old and each telling you about their country post war and pre war, far better than any body telling you how to trap a ball and get a tram ticket certificate.. A topic of hilarity to the Shipyard Football Fraternity around the fire, as the English game’s opinion on itself was less that respected.

Yes time has moved on but being disrespected in ones own country by people you know you have out coached was not easy to swallow and I always did my own research and attended coaching demonstrations from visiting coaches and demonstrations..

You can teach the basics to anyone , but not everyone can read a game. That’s the skill, and you have it or you don’t, and to this day I see coaches that fail because they cannot influence via strategic changes and think playing personnel are the answer. The game is simple, only people complicate it, and make a lot of money doing so.

Enough of ideology, the Newcastle trip was another step as the Brisbane influence was less as newer players from outside were introduced, and some found it a strange culture / enviourement

In those times same sex relationships was basically not discussed openly but it was the elephant in the room to a smaller extent on that tour.

Categorically it did not effect the football result but it did raise the issue and I was totally out of my depth in handling such an issue at the time, and hoped it could be handled by my female counterparts in the management side of the squad.

After Perth and viewing how the other states were structured I was very concerned how the injuries were treated on and off the park.

Fortunately in the past I had coached Peter Monteith and having his sister Sue in the squad I approached the parents Jan and David who was a Physiotherapist and Doctor to attend the girls.

Yes we were the first state to have the services of a qualified physio on the line, and Jan Monteith was it. The days of just having a strapper or bucket boy was over and it too was totally voluntary and cost the Monteith family extensively in lost income.

We were progressing off the park as well as on in those years building brick by brick, often overlooked.

A middle order result on that tour was disappointing for me but our standard of playing was improving, and one of my gauges was when I started I arranged practice games with boys teams, good teams and we started with Under12 -13 level and each year we grew more competitive in those trials and more importantly more respected by the pundits of the women’s game. My Colts team were impressed.

The Darwin tour saw me out. After breaking my foot in the first training session it was a painful time in more ways than one. We just couldn’t get any breaks, the rub of the green you name it it went wrong and the poor performance was my accountability fully and I might say celebrated in some circles as a opportune time to push ones own agendas, and some totally unprofessional actions disappointed me outside the playing staff.

All a learning curve and in the past, and yes this is a branch and root recollection from a 70 year old but with a memory of still seeing the ball go in the corner bouncing over a sliding right foot a defender after chipping the goalkeeper to loose a state title. That still sticks, but the girls in my squads were the best they could be, earned their shirts which they had to give back without prejudice and I was proud to be associated with each and every one off them and its their history I want reinstated as it was them who set the ground too for a ever evolving women’s game which had finally been recognised nationally in the name of A league Women

Our Delta Dilemma Sits With LNP’s Elite.

Lets cut to the chase right now and declare Australia would not be in its present dilemma with Delta Covid19 strain if our PM and the NSW Premier did their job and followed proven practice and locked down when it was obvious to the rest of the nation.

The ideological power game is now is a death sentence too many Australians, old and young and is developing into what should be a criminal offence.

Politicians and no different to bosses, they have a duty of care to their constituents and this total crap about waiting the election cycle to justify their actions especially when people are dying now.

These are different times we are told, their words, we have to adjust, their words, well isn’t it time politicians were opened up to legal charges if they fail their duty, My words?

There are last count 700 children in NSW hospitals with covid and no one knows what the after effects of that are, yet the toxic 2 continued to spouse the line that kids were safe to sell their “Keep BUSINESS OPEN IDEOLOGY”

THEY BOTH stated they took advice from Business and Health Professionals to justify fostering the spread, even after knowing that the virus was different to previous strains. Thats criminal.

What is also criminal is the media failing to report, question our investigate all the data including child hospitalisation instead just playing the daily game of scripted pressers tell us the same shit making the average person just turn off.

They have left the field (The Media) and reverted into an echo chamber of the morning brief, repeating exactly the same crap on the hour every hour.

What happened to them holding them to account? Answer : Im too scared because I might not be allowed back into the next presser.

From experience I know lockdowns do cause mental health problems but that pressure can be eased if peoples livleyhoods are guaranteed by governments, and worked with the previous strain with Job Keeper but now we have a more infectious strain and they discontinued, and if they recovered and charged all the billionaires who forged the books last time this time would not be such a issue now.

They won’t because they are the Donors to the LNP cartel.

Yes cartel. I say that because the LNP in no longer a true political entity. It now sanctions cover ups, money laundering, rapists and child mollesters and pedophiles openly, without consequence and that was never tolerated in years gone by as that party did have ethics, and the present party is a disgrace to its forefathers, and their genuine members and supporters.

So, with that all said no wonder the people in NSW are basically our nations Lepers, not of their own doing but lepers non the less all caused by total incompetence of the elite who will just walk away when its politically opportune as they have always done.

You Don’t Hold the Hose. Eh Scotty and Gladys ???

Jelly Back Journalism

Well if the Poms can get one thing right its their Media Scrum. They are pretty relentless in questioning of their leaders but sadly I believe it can be said the quality of the politician in England is not of the highest quality.

Good accountability can only be achieved and maintained a strong media who are fearless in questioning and investigative journalism.

Yes that via the way it WAS, not now. Our media now has descended into what can only be described as protection rackets who cover the arse of who gives them the inside running, be it news or business that in the past would be done by the Marfia.

In Australia Murdock has a monopoly, all blessed by the current government who get their propaganda out guaranteeing their control over Pay Tv and media digital and what’s left of hard copy.

If that’s not fertile ground corruption ill stand naked, and explains the acrid attacks on the public network who honestly tries to deliver a balanced view,

Sadly a “Balanced View” is ridiculed as a lefty socialist when the commercial media is that of the far right that would make Hitler smile.

The classic example is America with the assistance of a imbecile Trump split the already split nation into tribal warfare. Fox and CNN both abandoned true journalism and went to their corners and put on a show about as informative as a Jack and Jill book, but was feasted on by total fuckwitts on both sides.

The damage done is irreparable and before Trump it was a fractured nation racially ,economically and without any social conscious, and that capitalistic inbred culture will eventually destroy their society.

Enough with the Failed State, looking at our media does not take much analysis. Take a look at the wet behind the ears so called reporters fronting our leaders daily and they have about as much talent as my dogs squeaker.

Check out the mobile phones, all with questions texted to them by their bosses back in the office, while every now and then a real war horse pokes up his or her head and fires a ouch, and them who do don’t get asked in fear of having to respond off script.

Playing the game, a serious game that creates or destroys players who make decisions that effects every one of our lives. These mouth peaces in suits are often pay back jobs from the incest culture within the media organisations, and gone are the middle class kids running for anything that will get them into a building let alone a news room, and that flight for culture reflected in their journalistic style on and off air.

They are the real journalists, the ones that are memorable by their stories that shape our nation and shake the cages of the rich and powerful or the urban crook ripping off the granny.

Todays news is like quote “going to a Pizza shop”. You get to select which flavour you like and which truth you feel suits your lifestyle.

I object with passion outlets calling themselves News when its Opinion or more than that Entertainment, and it’s sad how people cannot define the difference out of pure ignorance.

ABC News Breakfast V Sunrise, Radio National V a million shock jocks, stark comparison you may say but answer the question: Do I Have the Intelligence or information to define what is the difference ?” OR do I want to?

If you can’t you should just think, because that what the fake news, conspiracy theorists thrive on and you’re their prey.

Struggle with that? You’re not alone just look at America an entire nation fell for it and it really boils down to a IQ test, cruel but true.

They’ll sell you a car with a free bumper bar, and they bought it hook line and sinker, and still do as we speak.. And that both sides..Dumb Down the population, starve them of news outside their bubble and the population can be manipulated much easier.

Yes I’m opinionated, an observer of human behaviour broadly and a belief we all should help each other up, not crawl over them to get up which puts me in the socialist category I suppose and I’m pretty comfortable in that seat.

Boomer Bag Blues

After I reached the counter of my local grocery store the young girl asked me what was on my rag bag and had a look and it was the younger er versions of 4 State Premiers and one Prime Minister, underlined by QLD Labor.

She seemed hesitant after that to converse and I understood in her role it may have been a “silent moment”.

On leaving the clear park I thought it was sad that it just seeing a piece of rag screen print makes a young person so defensive these days.

I suppose at that age I was a interested enough to be politically aware, probably been on a few protests and listened and understood the political landscape all before my 17th birthday.

I’d been involved in disputes to gain a lunch room, showers, sick pay, compensation, overtime rates, safety shoes, overalls, adequate staging to stand on when working at heights, just to name just a few all now taken as granted by the today’s society.

Many of these “New Age” people have never fought for a thing in their working life, in fact they may have traded off some of those conditions fought with often actual starvation charity from fellow workers in support, knowing well if we won a dispute it would flow on to them.

It would be hypocritical of me to just blame our present society as they had to get their education from some where and that parental history often was ignored as they too rode on the back of the Union gains without loosing a penny.

They just took and often ridiculed the worker who did the hard yards and that is happening today by the majority now living on their Superannuation that was fought for in the branches pressuring the politicians to change living standards, and it really sickens me when people are totally ignorant of industrial history nationally and internationally.

At this point I do not discount one minute those who have chose to work for themselves, the entrepreneur, the person who takes a punt on his/her instinct or being in a family business, it’s tough I know, but that was my choice, my punt and like any punter you have to be prepared to loose too.

The inequality comes is when support is not proportional to the distance from the poverty line, and l now I hear the “socialist “ cries but if looking after the least equiped to survive is a crime then I’m guilty in trumps, and quite proud of it in fact.

The loss of education on how we built our living standard cannot be left to politicians as you will never get a balanced view, my education come from listening to the elders, the ones that saw progress from their pain not only in money but marriages and family ideologies.

They stood up and walked the walk, unlike today where if you went into a fight you have to have reservations on the person in the trench was prepared to hold the line or make a pathetic excuse check his shares or iPhone.

In closing it would be amiss of me not to mention and credit the women that stood by their man, run the house and kids lives as best they could, they gave the men and women on the streets the support and confidence that their fight was a good fight, and if that was to happen today would that character re-emerge?

I live in hope but………excuses come cheap and blame is important strategically.

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